Brandon Sanderson, Howard Tayler, and Dan Wells are doing a series of podcasts on writing called Writing Excuses.
The have two podcasts on magic:
http://www.writingexcuses.com/2008/05/12/writing-excuses-episode-14-magic-systems-and-their-rules/
http://www.writingexcuses.com/2008/05/18/writing-excuses-episode-15-costs-and-ramifications-of-magic/
I found these two interesting, and, as always, entertaining to listen to. However, while their focus on limitations and ramifications is excellent, I’ve found asking “what does the magic cost” to be counterproductive. Here’s why: “cost” leads people to think ONLY of magics where you trade x thing for y power. Blood, memories, vitality, years of life, your children, etc. The problem with this is that while magics that use fuel (cost something) can be great, it isn’t necessary to do it that way. There are many stories with wondrous magics that don’t cost a thing.
For example, Heroes shows a lot of magic without cost. What does it cost Hiro to time travel? Nothing. It’s free. What about the painter? He can do it at will. Same with the guy who goes invisible, the cheerleader who regenerates–all the other characters there. What about the magic in Elantris? It costs nothing to draw the runes. What was consumed? Nothing. What about Orson Card’s Hatrack world? Alvin can doodlebug until doomsday. There’s no fuel required.
Some may say it’s semantics, but it’s not. It affects the paths taken in the invention of the magic. I’ve seen it in my invention sessions and those of groups I’ve been in. Don’t trust me, do a group magic brainstorm session where you ask the cost of magic question and then another where you ask about limitations instead.
I’ve found that it’s MUCH more helpful to ask these questions but NOT necessarily in the order below.
- What is a cool power?
- What are the limitations to it?
- What are the ramifications and conflicts of using it?
Costs are simply ONE type of limitation. In magic, limitation and ramification are the key things. By opening up the question, we can use costs or MANY other types of limitations like genetics/bloodlines, intelligence, scope of power, duration of effect, sources, scarcity of ability, morals, geography, times when it’s effective, mysteries, etc.
Listen to the wonderful podcasts and then focus on powers, limitations, and ramifications, and use costs only if they are limitations that jazz you.
John, thank you so much for posting this. This handout is (as usual) really spectacular.
I’d love to know how you bring all these insights into a workflow. I feel like the prototypical “can’t remember more than three things at a time” reader. As an aspiring writer, should I be able to tap these strategies off the top of my head? Or should the approach be more one of polishing ideas perpetually throughout the creation process, using these strategies as a touchstone?
Dave
I loved this presentation and am thrilled to have the handout. I have struggled with building good stories, mulling over different forms (3 act, 7 act, Campbell’s monomyth, etc.) and this approach is fantastic. This alone made my trip to LTUE worth it.
It was an awesome two-hour workshop, John. I think everyone — aspirants and people who have published — got something out of it.
BTW, you should know that “Servant of a Dark God” is on the shelves at the Smith’s up on Bengal Boulevard in the Sandy benches.
Meanwhile, the West Valley Smith’s on 5600 West didn’t have any copies that I could find.
Thanks, Brad. Glad you were able to be there and add your insights. 🙂
Diamondb, so happy it helped. I think the issue, at least for me, with talking about forms (3 acts, 5, 7, hero’s journey, etc.) is that form means nothing outside the context of function. And so those form discussions never proved helpful to me. Yeah, I understood them. But once I figured out it was all about the problem and making it harder, it seemed to make everything so much easier. Hope it does for you.
Davemaarten, use them as prompts, tools. Your goal is to get a problem, plot, and character that jazz you. You can use all of these, some, or none. They are means to an end. We’ll be posting the video of the presentation next week or the week after.
John,
It went great! I was really glad that you were able to cover so much ground. I know that it really helped me with a few steps, and gave me one of the craziest ideas for a book that I’ve ever had.
Excellent, you’ll have to tell me the concept.
This workshop was the highlight of the week (I was at LTUE all 3 days). It was so insightful. I can’t wait for John to post the video.
Thanks again for all your help John! I’ll be looking for your book.
Justin
Justin,
Good to hear it was so helpful!
John,
My friend and I missed that particular workshop and I am glad that you posted the handout. I eagerly await the video.
I was the guy that walked with you down to the bookstore on Sat and couldnt get a copy of the book because I had to catch my plane to Boise. Hopefully I can get my hands on a copy soon.
Thanks for pearls of wisdom that you share with us “hopefuls”.
Mike
Mike,
Yeah, that was a bit frustrating to encounter that book ordering screwup. But I’m glad you found the conference helpful! Keep writing!
John,
This handout is fantastic. I look forward to seeing the video!
I’m glad it’s helpful. However, I included many things as memory joggers. For example, “Kumbaya”–what does that mean? So you really need the video to understand it. Keep you eyes peeled.